Angela James

Ask the Editor: What do you hate?

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I am so fortunate. Today I said on Twitter and Facebook, "Do you have a burning question for an editor? I need a blog topic." I got a tremendous response of some really great, amazing questions. Not all of them about editing, either! So I'm going to be using my blog, and the Carina Press blog, to answer the "ask the editor" questions in the coming weeks. If you're not on Twitter (or Facebook), and you have a question, feel free to leave it in the comments!

Today, @romancinkatrina asked: Three things that make you hurl a book across the room faster than seeing a spider on the wall.

This seems like it should be such an easy question, right? But I really had to think about it, because I couldn't immediately think of the huge hot button issues that I always know won't work for me. But I did finally come up with a few things I came up with that are issues for me in reading:

1) Rape: no, not the use of rape in a book in general, but when the main character (usually the heroine but sometimes it's a hero) is shown as having been raped recently, especially within the book's timeframe, but seems to suffer no emotional or psychological trauma, and just merrily goes on their way. Rape is a horrible act, and using it as a plot device or a character device, simply to add conflict to the book, and then disregarding all the consequences of that conflict makes me insane, and it strikes me as disrespectful of all the people who've suffered this. Don't show the heroine (or hero) as jumping into bed with their romantic lead soon after the event, don't ignore that the tragedy of having this happen has the potential to change how they act and react, and who they are. Don't make it just a convenience. Don't just use it because you want something horrible to happen to your characters to show you're not afraid to torture them. (for the record, I remain impressed with how Patricia Briggs handles this in the Mercy Thompson series)

2) Big Misunderstandings: I'm not a fan of this plot device, so it can pretty often make me want to kick someone's characters in the head. The problem, for me, with the Big Mis, is that it's just so often the result of two people who are too stubborn and stupid to just say "Why did you do this" and instead play these passive-aggressive games that keep them apart. Passive-aggression doesn't make ANYONE likeable, and when the only conflict keeping two people apart is stubborness and stupidity, I figure they don't deserve to be happy anyway!

3) Unclean sex: Oh, just ew here. I apologize to anyone who's easily embarrassed, but this one's going to be a little more graphic (Dad, stop reading). There's a few things in erotic romances that bother me in regards to "unclean" sex. I'm no prude but I draw the line at books that portray the hero going from the back hole to the front with no sanitary clean up in between. Do you have any IDEA of the kind of bacteria and illness that can introduce to women's bodies? Say it with me, "ewwwww!" Also, if you're going to show your hero/heroine in a masturbation scene, and something happens immediately after where they have to go answer the phone/door, etc., can they PLEASE wash their hands somehow. Because again...ew. That makes me want to run for the hand sanitizer and bathe in it.

Bonus: I'm not entirely sure "hint of tuna" while kissing would make me stop reading, but if a book becomes too gross as far as bodily functions and "reality", I will toss the book. I'd like some mystery in the relationship, please.
I also won't continue a book if I can't connect with the characters or if I don't understand their motivation. Sure, I might not agree with their motivation, but I need to know why they're doing something. Unlikeable characters I don't understand can be a deal breaker for me in a book I'm reading.

Okay, you got mine. Your turn. What will make you throw a book (or wish you could throw it if you're reading digitally) faster than seeing a spider on the wall across the room?

For additional comments, please see the original post at Nice Mommy ~ Evil Editor

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Updated August 26th, 2010 at 07:43 PM by Angela James

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  1. Jus Accardo -
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    A spider on the wall trumps it all... (oo that even rhymes! :D )

    But the thing that makes me cringe is cheesy and unrealistic dialog. There's nothing worse IMO than than a kick ass character doing his or her thing when POOF! All of a sudden they spout some cheesy line that's totally out of character.

    Great post!
  2. Heather Howland -
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    #3. BIGGEST pet peeve in erotic romance!!

    Let's see... I'm not a fan of chauvinistic a$$hole alpha heroes who inform their women they'll be getting down below waxed and drive them to the salon themselves to make sure it happens.

    I also freak out when there is too much carrying going on. As in, the woman never gets to walk ANYWHERE because the man is carrying her. Oh, and when he dries her off after picking her up out of the tub, too. I'm all for being taken care of, but it irks me in all three of these situations that the woman is treated like a doll with no mind of her own, waxed and carried around as if her sole purpose is to please the hero.

    Great post again, Angela. Can't wait to see what other people can't stand in their books!
  3. Leslie Dow -
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    Hi Angela, You got my votes for #1 and #2. I don't read a lot of erotic, so I pass on the commentary around #3. And Like you I think Briggs is handling the rape issue extremely well.

    One thing that also gets me going is gross stupidity. Some characters seem too stupid to live - personally, I think we should let them die or at least give 'em an IQ boost. MCs who cannot figure out a simple, and I do mean simple, plot twist will have me closing a book and not reopening it. Those are my roll-my-eyes moments, and I dial up the next book in the Kindle queue.

    I also become irritated with what I like to call the mid-plot bait and switch. The tone of the book starts off all dark and edgy, which I love. Then about 2/3s of the way in, the tone goes light and fluffy, leaving me completely confused and wondering if a bubble-gum twin of the author actually finished writing the book. I've seen this one lately in a couple of pretty high profile YA releases.

    Thanks for blogging about this.
  4. LaTessa -
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    Hi Angela, I don't read a lot of erotica (I mostly stumble across a couple of them a year accidentally, yes that actually happens-lol )

    But I have to agree with you on #3, even as it relates to contemporary romance-- regardless of the steam level. I am always distracted from a story when there is no hand washing when you know it's called for.

    Also (and I'll admit it right here and now, I'm a bit of a neat freak) I always give a "ruh roh" when full fledged "sessions" are initiated first thing in the mornings and there's no brushing of the teeth to be had. I can see a peck here and there, or quick convo, but not a full fledged action scene, if you catch my drift- LOL.

    But I'll admit that may just be the Adrian Monk in me coming out- lol.
  5. Christine Bell -
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    I am LMAO at the back hole comment!!! So true. Blech. In fact, at least one of my publishers specifically forbids it in their style guide along with any *ahem* oral stimulation on the male after visiting the back door(as if they had to tell me, *snort*. I'd sooner blow dry my hair while showering, thanks.)
    The big misunderstanding is the worst one. I refer to it as "Three's Company Syndrome" and I will immediately write a book off for it.
    The other one is weird dialogue during sex. I get sexy talk. A line here a line there, muttered in the heat of things, but a soliloquy is off-putting. Especially if it's a guy saying words like "caress" or "sensual" or "must" ala "I must have you." Who says "must" out loud? No one, that's who.
  6. meham -
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    Newbie frantically taking notes in firmly bound notebook..
    carry on!
    Updated August 28th, 2010 at 02:47 PM by meham (typonese)
  7. Angela James -
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    It's so comforting to know we're not alone in our peeves, isn't it?
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