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AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 04:44 AM
There are many avenues of E-Publishing - and many e-publishers like Changeling Press, Samhain, Carina or the others mentioned by workshop members.

E-Publishers are not created equally. There are ‘large houses’ and ‘small houses’ who specialize. There are pros and cons to both of these, and it’s up to you to decide where you want your career to go.

Size
A ‘larger’ e-publisher is usually going to be able to help you build your readership, and they normally have promotion and/or marketing help, whether it’s a budget to spend on you, or people they employ to promo all authors. The larger e-pubs also can get your book in print, and into stores like B&N and Borders, Ect. (Although after today, I can probably take Borders off the list, LOL. Sad days though)

A ‘smaller’ e-pub may have more ability to work with authors, spend more one-on-one time with their authors. They still have a

Experience
If you search the internet, you’ll see a ton of publisher choices. A good portion of E-Pubs that start up fold within the first few years. The reasons why are too numerous to list. Just like the difference between E-Pubs and NY publishers, not all E-Pubs are the same. Each year, heck, almost every month, there’s a story about a new start-up E-Pub.

The key here is to do your research. Find publishers who have a track record, or if they’re new, make sure the people behind the house have experience in the industry.

Now, I’m NOT saying a new E-Pub isn’t worth your time. Many new ventures are done by professionals in ‘the-know’ and come from a NY background.

What I AM saying, is do your homework.

Because just as new ventures are announced, other E-Pubs fold. As time passes, we see less failures, mainly, I think, because people are wising up to what’s acceptable in the E-Pub business and doing their research.

Distribution
Make sure they have a good distribution - that they’re going to get your book out to the major e-book sellers so readers can find you. This should always include at least Amazon, B&N.com (Nook), and Fictionwise. If they’re going to print, do they put the book out to retailers?

Contract Terms
Know the standard contract (and keep in mind, these change over time)

Length: 3-7 years, shorter is becoming more common

Royalty Percentage of books sold on-site: 30-50%

Royalty Percentage of books sold off-site: 40-50% usually Net

They should provide an ISBN. Not all e-publishers purchase the copyright though, some leave that to the author. (BTW, for an E-Book it can all be done online and costs about $50 last time I checked.)

Copyright Office http://www.copyright.gov/ (http://www.copyright.gov/)
Online http://www.copyright.gov/eco/ (http://www.copyright.gov/eco/)

Misc
Know who is behind the company, and the editors and artists they employ. Buy a couple books, and read them. Is the writing quality? If you are looking at three different E-Publishers, and one offers you 50% royalty rate, yet the three books you purchased written poorly, or weren’t edited, do you want your work to be in their company?

Over time, some E-Pubs have gained a lot of ground. They’re considered at the top. They have a loyal following of readers who expect good quality stories, and consistently deliver.

There are E-Pubs who will sign anyone, don’t do much editing work, and barely sell anything.

Know who you’re working with. I can’t say it enough - do your research.

Don’t know where to start? Ask the authors you network with. Check out the sites below. And I love Google :)

Sites with lists of Epublishers and information
These lists may or may not be regularly updated, but they’re a good place to begin.
My favorite, Piers Anthony's List (http://www.hipiers.com/publishing.html#publishers)
SFF (Science Fiction & Fantasy) Net List by Lida Quillen (http://www.sff.net/people/Lida.Quillen/epub.html)
Preditors and Editors (http://pred-ed.com/)

Places to Research Reputations
Writer Beware (http://www.sfwa.org/for-authors/writer-beware/) (SFWA)
Preditors and Editors (http://pred-ed.com/)
Absolute Write Watercooler (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/)
SFWA (http://www.sfwa.org/for-authors/writer-beware/electronic/) Electronic Writers Beware

Diversify
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. It’s common for authors to publish with multiple houses. With houses folding, and news talking about author’s rights getting held onto for long periods of time -- sometimes having to go to court to get their rights back -- it’s becoming common to diversify.

If you e-publish with multiple houses, and one folds, you still have income and books out with others. If your rights get held up, you have other options.

And for me, a personal benefit is getting to work with multiple wonderful editors. Each one has their own style, teaching me something new, and I love learning and improving my writing.

All of this benefits you as a writer.

Anything you’d like to know that I haven’t touched on here?

Rayne Hall
February 17th, 2011, 07:28 AM
>They still have a<

Incomplete sentence. Something missing?

Rayne Hall
February 17th, 2011, 07:35 AM
Lots of new e-pubs fold. Based on my experience, more than 9 out of 10 new e-publishers fold within two years. Many more never fold officially, they just cease to operate.
There are lots of wannebe publishers in the field, mostly failed authors who, after getting rejections, reckon they can do better. They fancy themselves publishers and editors and start full of enthusiasm, but have no clue about the industry or the work involved. When they realise that it's actually work, and that the money doesn't come rolling in, they give up. This can leave authors' rights hanging in limbo. If a work of fiction l has been accepted for publication, with 'first rights' or 'All electronic rights' assigned to the publisher, and the book doesn't get published (or it gets published but not promoted), then the author can't publish it elsewhere. The book becomes a zombie.

I agree, with new e-publishers it's essential to check their credentials. If they have any (e.g. the new publisher has been sales director of a major publishing house for twenty years), they will say so on their website. If the website doesn't contain any information about credentials, it's because there aren't any. This makes the checking up easy: if they're new and don't have credentials on their website, stay clear.

Anika Daniels
February 17th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the info Amber. Even if people have credentials it can not always be in your best interests to get involved with their publishing operation. Recently there was a new thread on the B&BC forum (absolute write) about a new epublishing operation which was started by someone with great credentials. However they were running a contest where you paid $149 to enter and in the process gave them the rights to use your story forever and not pay you any money.

AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Oops. I'll get that fixed when I get home. Sorry.

They still have readership, editors, cover artists and such :)

AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Sorry, double post

AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 01:28 PM
Rayne, exactly. Some e-pubs just kind of fade away without any announcements.

As for creds on the website, some good ones with lots of experience don't neccessarily hype that on their website. That's why I suggest reasearching more than just their site - the company could have the experience, and just not shout it out on the website, because they'd rather hype the new e-pub :)

AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 01:32 PM
Anika,

You are absolutely correct. I remember that so-called contest.

I can never emphasize enough to research, know the 'standards' and Always read the fine print :)

AmberKallyn
February 17th, 2011, 01:35 PM
Okay, make that a triple post.

Linda
February 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM
I checked with my editor at Black Opal Books and she said I could post this here. If you would like to submit to them, but don't want to go through the submission form on the website, send your submissions to: submissions@blackopalbooks.com I will tell you that they have great editors.